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Today's Topics:

   1. 70 Penske javelin Suspension (Armand Eshleman)
   2. Evil Russ (Brien Tourville)
   3. 1963 American Hardtop For Sale (JOE FULTON)
   4. Dry Transfer Rub On Lettering For 1:1 Car Detailing. (Mr. AMC)
   5. Re: Dry Transfer Rub On Lettering For 1:1 Car Detailing.
      (kimbueler@xxxxxxxxx)
   6. Re: Hornet Emblem (RetroRalph)
   7. Pebble Beach (Paul Dwyer)
   8. Re: Needing a 4.0 Liter Head for Conversion from 4.2-(86	CJ7)
      (Jim Blair)
   9. Re: AMC a 'Joke' - Independent Rear Suspension
      (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
  10. Re: AMC a 'Joke' - Independent Rear Suspension
      (amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
  11. Hornet Bonnet Nose Emblem (Craig Salzke)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:09:24 -0500
From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 70 Penske javelin Suspension
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <002f01c6ccf6$4d801aa0$6601a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks to the list members that responded to my inquiry about the Penske
car's suspension.

Armand



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:40:31 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Evil Russ
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <44F6AE8F.18471.161F6E8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII


What a show.
Now I know you guys and gals are saying I am cruel for
not assisting but I am laughing, inside of course, my
fool head off at the sight of a grown adult being
trapped by a two foot patch of grass, in the middle of
the city.
Finally an appropriatly dressed woman comes over to
assist and my fun is over.
Yeah, I'm evil......Russ


===        ===


Russ, time to turn in those HOOD milk containers
you've been hoarding - & fund a small & discrete
Digi-Cam that can spin 45 sec. of 'Action' from a
decent distance >  YouTube.com is calling your # ;)



   Bt
      NEW YORK


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1963 American Hardtop For Sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060831161845.67413.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

This was an unintended purchase and it surprised me
when it ran.

I bought this car from a neighbor who had purchased
the car as a parts car for his 1963 Rambler
convertible.  He never pulled any parts off it and he
moved to Hawaii recently.  He plans to move the little
pink convertible to Hawaii soon, but had to leave the
hardtop behind.

The car is a 440 hardtop and was originally frost
white including the top (paint code 72).  It has a
light blue interior, buckets seats, console and twin
stick transmission.  It has the two-barrel WCD carb
and has a remanufactured short block 196 engine with a
tag on it that says POWER-PAK.  The car has brand new
radial tires (185-60-15) which look kinda wierd on the
car.  It has a really bad beige paint job which I can
only assume was put on the car to protect it.  The
paint is flaking badly and there is no evidence that
the frost white paint was ever even sanded before the
repaint.  In other words the car looks doggy, but is
all there.

There are some bubbles in the paint on the lower rear
heels of the front fenders which I assume is rust
starting there.  The car runs, but needs the
carburetor rebuilt. I have a rebuild kit ordered for
the carb.  The chrome is in OK shape, with some
scratches on the bumpers and some pitting of the
ornaments.  The interior is in fair condition and
could be used with only a clean-up.  I do have extra
Rambler station wagon 15 inch wheels and new (larger
size) tires which can go with the car.  The glass is
all good with no cracks or broken panes.  The car is
currently registered so there are no back fees due to
DMV.

I am asking $1000 before I spend any more money on
this car.  Because of its condition and completeness
(and relative rarity) I think this would be an
excellent project car for someone new to the hobby.

I can transport it up to say 500 miles on my trailer
for $.60 per loaded mile.

Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:20:52 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Dry Transfer Rub On Lettering For 1:1 Car
	Detailing.
To: AmericanMotorsModelbuilders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
	callingalldifferentmodels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
	BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <9833-44F71A74-732@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

I haven done much model building in the last almost 3 years since I
bought my orange 1:1 Hornet. I usually bought model supplies for 2 years
at a time previously. The mail order place I bought my dry transfer
letters and supplies from for 15 years went out of business. I am not a
modern internet person but since I had a partial sheet of rub on letters
I bought 4 years ago I was able to contact the Mfg. directly and order
what I need and get a "PAPER" catalog and at the same time order a sheet
of the letters I need to finish a custom project on my orange 1:1
Hornet. I need to letter the cap of the billet radiator over flow tank
cap and the adjacent custom modified from a billet over flow tank into a
billet windshield washer tank to replace the old horrible old yellowed
plastic one. Anyone needing any info on this place E-Mail me for the
info. Nothing like a little bit of subtle factory looking detailing. You
all know what a pain I am on details that look look factory.
 :-)~
"Doc"



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:03:04 -0400
From: kimbueler@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Dry Transfer Rub On Lettering For 1:1 Car
	Detailing.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <44f72458.35a.5fa.7773@xxxxxxxxx>


> info. Nothing like a little bit of subtle factory looking detailing. You
> all know what a pain I am on details that look look factory.
>  :-)~
> "Doc"


Doc we all know your detailing stories, but we have no pictures. I have been reading your exploits for the past year or
so, and still waiting for that picture catalogue - won't you share this with us?

Regards,
Kim Bueler '75 Gremlin X 360 V8 - iPod equipped!!


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:14:34 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Hornet Emblem
To: "AMC-List" <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Craig Salzke <75hornet@xxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <001001c6cd31$b25711a0$6400a8c0@ralphs1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
	reply-type=response

Does anyone have any 73-75 Hornet nose hood nose emblems as described by 
Craig below...

Please respond to both Craig 75hornet@xxxxxxxxx and myself on this as the 
one I have for my '73 is not in siuch great shap, either.   Is there a good 
way to restore these items?

Thanks much.
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Ausmann  -  Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx>
http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Salzke" <75hornet@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Hornet Emblem


> Hello,
> I'm asking everyone around to see if I can locate a hard to find item for 
> my AMC Hornet here is what I'm looking for, hope you can help me out.
> 73-75 AMC Hornet Bonnet/Hood Badge/Emblem
> Its of the Hornet bee and it sits in a round plastic casing with hard 
> clear plastic over it covering the bee. That sits in the front middle of 
> the bonnet/Hood that you screw into Bonnet/Hood from underneith the 
> Bonnet/Hood.
> - I'm after any part of the ensembly
> - But In Particular the round plastic casing  - Any Condition
> - Or even Any Info on where I might locate one or     more
> Cheers
> Craig
______________________________________________________________ 



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:31 -0400
From: Paul Dwyer <pdwyer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Pebble Beach
To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <44F73FDF.5000806@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Two cars of particular interest to AMCers at this year's Concours at 
Pebble. Sorry for the delay.

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/concours06/38.html
http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/concours06/45.html

--Rambler Dan



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:53:57 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Needing a 4.0 Liter Head for Conversion from
	4.2-(86	CJ7)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F19B67E7FFD2388158AFAA1AC3F0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

A: JUst a small word of warning: If you are going carb (and you are in an 
emission test area) you would be better off with an '87 to '90 head (Renix) 
and stock header. It has the EGR pipe like the carbed manifold (if you don't 
retard your cam, it'll ping like crazy or the knock sensor will keep timing 
heavily retarded) The HO EFI system is what makes more power over the Renix. 
The throttle body is larger opening and the injectors are larger plus the 
cam retarding (done through the timing gears) pushes the power band higher, 
increases the HP and torque peaks.
   The rest is done through the port design of the head (raising them so air 
is directed in a straighter flow at the valve opening) That is why the 
upgrade of the last intake manifold makes more oomph.


From: "Munro, John" <John.Munro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Needing a 4.0 Liter Head for Conversion from
	4.2-(86 CJ7)
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<BBF0140983AA224BB73B56B66D78EC590A2D443C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Needing a 4.0 Liter Head for Conversion from 4.2 Liter



1991 or newer. These are high port, H.O. (High Output) heads
used on all
4.0L Engines.



Head casting # 7120



Hopefully this info is correct

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 04:07:44 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC a 'Joke' - Independent Rear Suspension
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E660CF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

The Jag is easier to install than the 'vette IRS because of the trailing
arms. You have to use the 'Vette arms as they support the hubs, or some
models need two trailing arms that have to be positioned correctly and
the correct lengths to keep geometry right. The Jag axle just uses a
simple single trailing arm that is best replaced with a tubular four
link type with screw-in 5/8" hole urethane bushed rod ends. Making a
mount for the car body is relatively simple. The advantage of the 'vette
is the transverse leaf spring is a bit easier to install than the four
coil over shocks, or rather takes up less room.


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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:49 AM
From: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx

I never got into the IRS end of it, Yet.
It may well be easier to do a Jag rear then the Vette.
On FeeBay right now in ALamaba is the perfect donor car. 1984 Flood
Vette,
Tuned port pulled and replaced with a Quadrabog, gutted missing
interior,
supposedly runs, Salvage Florida title, 16" cenetrlines, good skins, It
was at
like $300 yesterday with two days to go. No reserve. If it goes cheap it
would
be as clos eto a freee suspension as you can find. Alas, It is too far
for me
to try to acquire in my current condition.
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV




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Message: 10
Date: Fri,  1 Sep 2006 14:53:17 +0800
From: amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC a 'Joke' - Independent Rear Suspension
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1157093597.44f7d8ddcfc18@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Jag rear ends are often used under hotrods in this part of the world
I recall they are pretty heavy and the inboard disk brakes are a bear to work 
on you may well have to drop the rear end to do so
Info based on hearsay from a discussion with a good jag mate in the 80's
Stu
Melbourne
Australia
Quoting francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

> The Jag is easier to install than the 'vette IRS because of the trailing
> arms. You have to use the 'Vette arms as they support the hubs, or some
> models need two trailing arms that have to be positioned correctly and
> the correct lengths to keep geometry right. The Jag axle just uses a
> simple single trailing arm that is best replaced with a tubular four
> link type with screw-in 5/8" hole urethane bushed rod ends. Making a
> mount for the car body is relatively simple. The advantage of the 'vette
> is the transverse leaf spring is a bit easier to install than the four
> coil over shocks, or rather takes up less room.
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------
> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:49 AM
> From: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> I never got into the IRS end of it, Yet.
> It may well be easier to do a Jag rear then the Vette.
> On FeeBay right now in ALamaba is the perfect donor car. 1984 Flood
> Vette,
> Tuned port pulled and replaced with a Quadrabog, gutted missing
> interior,
> supposedly runs, Salvage Florida title, 16" cenetrlines, good skins, It
> was at
> like $300 yesterday with two days to go. No reserve. If it goes cheap it
> would
> be as clos eto a freee suspension as you can find. Alas, It is too far
> for me
> to try to acquire in my current condition.
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> or go to http://www.amc-list.com
> 




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:24:40 +1000
From: Craig Salzke <75hornet@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Hornet Bonnet Nose Emblem
To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <44F7E038.50703@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello,
I'm asking everyone around to see if I can locate a hard to find item 
for my AMC Hornet here is what I'm looking for, hope you can help me out.
73-75 AMC Hornet bonnet/Hood Badge/Emblem
Its of the Hornet bee and it sits in a round plastic casing with hard 
clear plastic over it covering the bee. That sits in the front middle of 
the bonnet/Hood that you screw into Bonnet/Hood from underneath the 
Bonnet/Hood.
- I'm after any part of the ensemble
- But In Particular the round plastic casing
- Any Condition
- Or even Any Info on where I might locate one or more
Cheers
Craig


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