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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: hornet/concord/eagle interchange question (farna@xxxxxxx)
   2. OT: Jet Beetle (ramblinguy@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
   3. Re: Front Springs... (imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx)
   4. Re: Front Springs... (farna@xxxxxxx)
   5. NOS AMC spark plugs on ebay cheap (hal.lynch@xxxxxxx)
   6. Grill/Grille (Jock J Jocewicz)
   7. Re: Grill/Grille (Mr. AMC)
   8. 1966 Rambler wagon and 78 Hornet Hatchback for sale!!
      (farna@xxxxxxx)
   9. 70 Ram Air (Armand Eshleman)
  10. Re: Grill/Grille (RetroRalph)
  11. Re: Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop! (Sandwich Maker)
  12. Re: Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop! (Tom Jennings)
  13. speling (Tom Jennings)
  14. Bike Carbs for Car Engines (Brien Tourville)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:14:00 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] hornet/concord/eagle interchange question
To: Blitzman@xxxxxxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Cc: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<042920061214.13275.4453588800010E7D000033DB21602807480E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
	

Eddie, Duane: 
Yes, the Eagle body is virtually the same as the Hornet and Concord. Doors, front clips, hatch, etc. all interchange. All glass interchanges all models and years. There are some differneces in the front sheet metal and how it mounts, but as long as the entire front end is switched (fenders, grille, and hood) they will generally interchange. The caveat there is the panel behind the headlights attached to each end of the radiator support structure is slightly different depending on the front end design. As long as the headlight arrangement is the same even this isn't an obstacle, but going from round to rectangular headlights would be a lot more work. With headlights in the same arrangement you might have to adjust a few mounting holes and braces. 

--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Independent 
Magazine" (AIM)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Duane       Blitzman@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Non-AMX jav form request


Hiya Eddie,

   This is Duane, I talked to you a few days ago about hatch compatibility of 
cars with `72 Hornet Sportabout.
Was wondering if Eagle rear hatch will fit on `72 Sportabout, will later 
Sportabout hatches fit, also it looks to me like the front doors from all 4-door 
Hornet and Concords are the same, are they? the eagle doors look the same too 
cept for having totally different interior and electric windows.. hmm... might be neat to have electric windows in front only.   :0)

Take care,
     Duane


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:09:59 -0400
From: ramblinguy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] OT: Jet Beetle
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:14:05 -0400
From: imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Front Springs...
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:35:38 -0400
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Front Springs...
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62UAaTzvb5Y00000866@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

Well, the factory HD replacements aren't always that much stiffer, and in a few cases they are too stiff. The 10-15% over factory stock ensures you get a better ride without suffering to much. The springs are custom wound as they are ordered for low volume (what they sell now) cars, so stocking isn't a problem. 

On April 28, 2006 andrew hay wrote:

> " From: farna@xxxxxxx
> "
> " The attachemnt was "scrubbed", but the new system puts up a link you
> " can click to see it! The message stated you're looking for a source
> " for frint springs. The source I always use is www.coilspings.com
> " (Coil Spring Specialties in Kansas). Since this is for an early to
> " mid 60s car, I suggest you order springs 10-15% stiffer than stock.
> " That's about what factory heavy duty springs would have been. CSS
> " only makes progressive coils now, not "straight" compression rate.
> " The progressives ride much better -- a little soft initially but
> " stiffen at an increasing rate as they are compressed. They will work
> " out the rate you need based on the original "straight" rate. They
> " have charts showing factory rates from way back.
> 
> if they have the factory charts, why not just order factory hd
> replacements?
> 
> i have to second going with hd.  i put factory hd in my '67 marlin
> along with twin-tube ['low pressure'] gas shocks, and the ride was
> great - nicely firm, neither mushy or harsh.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay   

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:46:09 +0000
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] NOS AMC spark plugs on ebay cheap
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<042920061346.11593.44536E21000660A800002D492160280748080C029704D2040E08@xxxxxxx>
	
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I've got my last set of NOS N14LY spark plugs on ebay that will be going off within a day and are only bid to $1.26. Item number below.  If you want to add to your collection cheap thrse are all unopend and in the factory box.  
8059561911

BTW, thank you to  everyone for helping identify my NOS seat,  Its even found a new home in the bunch.
I'll be at the Chrysler car show in Elmhurst Il this weekend.  Not bringing out the AMX but I have ammassed a collection of some 50+ cans of various old quart cans of oil tht I will be selling in the vendor area.  If anyone wants five quarts of classic oild to acent there vehicle display at shows let me now.
Hal

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:18:00 -0500
From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Grill/Grille
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060429.091800.-16502827.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

"Doc" and all, I think what John is trying to say it is grille, not
grill.

Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
          JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974,  NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:19:39 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Grill/Grille
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <2853-4453840B-330@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

A discussion over one letter. My spell checker say's grill is the right
spelling. I wasent even going to respond to this but I was reading the
list and had a few minutes to kill before going to my grand sons 1 year
old birthday party. Don't you people have anything more constructive to
do like work on your cars? Even being severely handicapped now I work on
mine 2-4 hours a day. I just spent 3 hours cutting the templates for the
tint letters for the windshield of my car.
"Doc"



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:31:52 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] 1966 Rambler wagon and 78 Hornet Hatchback for
	sale!!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Message-ID:
	<042920061731.5442.4453A308000B4E9B0000154221587667550E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
	

Forwarded for Rich Truesdale, who has been stranded by AOL...
Please respond directly to Rich, his e-mail is at the end of this message. 
----------------------------------------------

I'm not sure if any of you followed the eBay auction on my 1966 Rambler American 440 station wagon (item number 4631949099 - you can still view the original ad which got more than 1800 hits) which stalled at $1025. I was quite surprised given that I was offering it with a complete 1978 AMC Concord hatchback donor car with a 304 V8, front disc brakes and an AMC 20 rear end (which makes it basically a station wagon version of the Car Craft project Rambler). My plan was to combine the two and  build a SC/Rambler Phantom station wagon. (I ended up buying a 1969 American 440  station wagon earlier this month with a 290 V8, thus my desire to sell this pair.) Oh, one more thing, the station wagon is equipped with cold-blowing factory air.

I have decided to have the carb rebuilt or replaced and re-list the station wagon without the parts car (it will be available if the buyer wants it), in an effort to make things simpler. When I see some of the junk that sells for big dollars, I just scratch my head.

The bottom line is this. I'm going to re-list the car with a Buy-It-Now of $2,500. The new reserve will be $2,100. If someone makes me a confirmed bid before I list it, I will sell it for $2,000 (don't ask me to go lower, I'm into the car for $2,700 and  believe that for the right person, someone who wants a clean, complete car as the basis for a project, this is it). I'll throw in a Pioneer AM/FM/CD with  a separate XM tuner if someone from the list buys the
car this weekend, a $200 value.

Check out the old listing  on eBay and take a look at the high-resolution images on my web site at:imageevent.com/mmm_mag/1966rambleramericanwagon. If you have any questions,  please E-mail me at autotronic@xxxxxxxx I'm willing to work with serious buyers to help arrange transportation.

The car is located in Yorba  Linda, CA, 15 minutes from Disneyland in Orange County.

If you know someone  interested in a sixties Falcon, Chevy II, Valiant or the like, please point them  in my direction. This is a sweet little car and will make someone really happy.  I know how much I enjoy driving the 1969 290 V8 I just  bought.

Have a great  weekend,

Rich  Truesdell
AUTOtronic@xxxxxxx



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:57:14 -0500
From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 70 Ram Air
To: "AMC/Rambler List" <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <003e01c66bd7$e05befa0$6601a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I have seen a few cars with the ram air hoods on them but I've 
never been inside one or looked close enough to figure out how 
the little doors in the  scoops worked. I was sitting here the 
other day and got to wondering how that magic works? Is there 
a switch on the dash or a lever or something that actuates the 
vacuum and closes the little doors????

Thanks,

Inquiring minds want to know,

Armand


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:08:56 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Grill/Grille
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <009201c66bd9$82e8adc0$6400a8c0@ralphs1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
	reply-type=original

Don't forget that "[sic]" in there...

I had to look that one up again. and remembered I must have done that in the 
past, also...   God bless Google, anyway... Education is so easy nowadays...
It apparently means is mis-spelled or there is some error of expression or 
something like that...

Now if I wasn't so dang "porous" up there on the top floor.

I got a kick out of the "Ziggy"  cartoon in our paper today.  He was rather 
adamantly telling the mechanic at Dave's Garage who was working on his car 
"...it doesn't EITHER need new "WARP COILS"!!   Poor guy must get treated 
like my blond daughter...

Then using my favorite search engine again... hear [sic] on eBay is this 
thingy...
        "Bentley Grille Grill for Nose Air Intake New Chromed:
        Item number: 8058548956  -
        Chromed Grille Grill Bentley Continental GT Air Duct"
        Looks like $995 (starting) or Buy it Now $1195.

When I do the grillE for my old Hornet I think I'll just get one of the 
"free" ones from the supermarket and try to fabricate something from the 
parts that looks decent enough for the Hornet.  After all it isn't a 70 AMX. 
Maybe if I have enough left over I can make a BBQ grill.  (That is if my 
dentist ever get my new uppers done.)

OK, I'll shut up so the list can move on along...
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Ausmann  -  Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx>
http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jock J Jocewicz" <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Grill/Grille


> "Doc" and all, I think what John is trying to say it is grille, not grill.
>
> Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
___________________________________________________________________ 



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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200604292144.k3TLiJU12149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "Mike Kindle" <mike90066@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" I got to talk to Douglas Glad today.  He's the Car Craft editor who is 
" building the 67 Rambler that you may have seen recently in the magazine.  He 
" talked about the difficulty of doing a Rambler.  Because of the smaller 
" following, he can't put it on the cover, and after all the work that goes in 
" he only gets a few articles out of it.
" 
" []
" 
" Inside scoop?  Well, I guess I can say he is planning to see once and for 
" all how big a tire and wheel combination you can fit in the American, while 
" showing for the benefit of all how to measure for this on any car.  I think 
" 215/75-14 on the back and 185/75-14 on the front.  We'll see what the 
" magazine comes up with.

he ought to be able to do better than that.  i run 205/70 on 14x6" all
around on my '68 without rubbing, and if i was more particular about
spacing i think i could do 215/70 on 6.5".  and the front is trickier
than the rear.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:26:36 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1146360393.5517.4.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 14:44, Sandwich Maker wrote:

re: biggest tire sizes...

> he ought to be able to do better than that.  i run 205/70 on 14x6" all
> around on my '68 without rubbing, and if i was more particular about
> spacing i think i could do 215/70 on 6.5".  and the front is trickier
> than the rear.

I agree. We've got 205/70R14's on the front of the 72 Hornet, on AMC
Rallye wheels (I assume they are 6.0" wide, never measured).



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:37:26 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] speling
To: amc-list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1146361042.5517.16.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

Here's my 14.7 cents:

I am one of those people inflicted with seeing the almost unbelievable
number of misspellings and gross syntax errors in commercial text,
novels, signs, etc. It's useful when writing, but often distracting. I
didn't learn this in skool as a stoont, as I went to a series of crappy
public schools. No collidge deegree. 

My father, a very smart guy, autos, electronics, radar, hydraulics,
software, you name it, built his house from scratch, and can't spell for
crap. He went to better schools than me, and two years of college. He's
very very good at solving problems visually.

Spelling has nothing to do with brain power, paying attention, or
schooling. Stupid people can spell well, and smart ones badly.

Doc said that his spell checker said grill was correct -- and people
over-looked that he CARED ENOUGH TO USE A SPELL CHECKER for his AMC
posts! Sheesh!

I wonder if I was born Chinese, say, would I find errors in that
language; and maybe my father would have been a linguist.

You can grill a grille with propane, or briquettes, and it would still
taste bad. English is a stupid, barbarian (literally), arbitrary, hard
to manage language.

(ANy misspellings in this text are either intentional, malicious, or
just plain lazy.)



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:12:42 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Bike Carbs for Car Engines
To: strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4453E4DA.31544.B794AD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII


http://hausbrauen.blogspot.com/2006/03/bike-carbs.html


http://hausbrauen.blogspot.com/2006/03/bike-carbs-i.html

More Bike Carb Conversion Pics - Porsche 924




3 Page article - you can click on the images to make them bigger, 
they
will pop up in a larger window, then move your mouse around near the
bottome right corner and you should see the icon to make them full 
size,
red arrow thing - this will expand the images to a full readable 
size.

Article is from Practical Performance Car March 2006 Issue.

Other images are just various bike carb installs. Enjoy - Remember 
this -
a Bike carb beats a weber hands down for economy and performance - 
Even
the Famous R1 Sports Bike has carbs - - 



the above is from a post :

From: anoble savage <savage944@xxxxxxxxx>


  
        =Bt=
  milnersXcoupe



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