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  Today's Topics:

  1. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  (Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy))
  2. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure (Frank Swygert)
  3. Re: A toy for Travell er (camper time!) (Tom Jennings)
  4. Re: Headlight Malfunction / Question (Tom Jennings)
  5. Re: Headlight Malfunction / Question (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
  6. Re: A toy for Traveller (camper time!) (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
  7. Re: 195.6 ohv head oiling (Tom Jennings)
  8. Re: A toy for Traveller (camper time!) (Bruce Griffis)
  9. e-bay Specials-3 days left.... (Richard Estermyer)
  10. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure (Ken Ames)
  11. Re: Pacer UFO (Ken Ames)
  12. Fw: Water pump pulley alignment question (Eddie Stakes)
  13. Coroner Inquest :] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  (Brien Tourville)


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  Message: 1
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:00:02 -0500
  From: "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)"
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  To:
  Message-ID:

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Well, there are not only those 2 plugs under the intake, but also 2
  in
  the front of the engine under the cam gear area. Are those also
  missing??

  George Graham
  AMC of Houston

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx]
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:53 AM
  To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure

  Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
  builder,
  but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
  critical by far.

  Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and flattened
  rod
  until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin it
  up
  until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
  the
  pump primed.

  No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine now,
  with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
  hard
  parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
  two. I
  dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
  high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?

  Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe the
  more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
  paranoid
  side when it comes to assembly.





  Greg DePratt wrote:
  > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it up
  > and found that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer. So I
  > checked my oil pressure gauge and it is working. Next I checked
  > the oil pressure gauge tube and also removed the tube from the
  > port. Some oil

  > will come out of the port while it is running but not a lot.
  > Next we removed the distributor and turned the oil pump with a
  > drill, thinking

  > maybe the pump didn't get primed properly. Still no oil
  > pressure. After scratching our heads for a while we remembered
  > that the local machine shop sent the block back to us without any
  > of the plugs in it.

  > Usually they put the plugs back in the correct spots before
  > giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were unsure
  > on the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake.
  > With the drill turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing
  > while looking into the oil fill tube. Is this the souce of my
  > low oil pressure problem?
  Thought I would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to
  buy
  a new gasket.
  >
  > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5 minutes.
  > Do you think I could have damaged anthing?
  >
  > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what
  > size they are?
  >
  > Thanks for you help!
  >
  > Greg DePratt
  > 68 Javelin SST
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  Message: 2
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:04:20 -0500
  From: Frank Swygert
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Message-ID: <491C8844.4090200@xxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  I missed that post somehow! I'm ranking about the same as Tom --
  "experienced amateur builder". Those two plugs at the top near the
  front of the valley DO have to be plugged. IIRC they are 3/8"
  plugs, but I'm not 100% certain. Those plug the holes that are
  drilled through the block to the lifter galleries (and pump on one
  side). Without the plugs you were just running oil up into the
  valley. It wasn't building pressure because there was nothing
  slowing the oil's progress through the pump and out the top.

  If you used a good assembly lube you SHOULD be okay. Install the
  plugs, prime the engine with a drill before you start it to make
  sure you have oil pressure (the drill may not pump up much over 10
  psi before it bogs down), then start it.

  I doubt you did enough damage to warrant disassembly. If you did,
  you'll know right after it cranks up and starts knocking. You may
  as well fire it up and see. At worst my guess is you took a few
  hundred miles off the bearings (assuming a good assembly lube was
  used). You should be fine on the camshaft also, as there was no oil
  to wash the lube away.

  Make sure you use a good break-in oil additive! With today's low
  ZDDP oils that's VERY important. I'd run the additive in the second
  batch of oil too (in the second oil change). Unless you are using
  stiffer than stock valve springs you should be fine after the
  second oil change with regular oil, but it won't hurt to run a bit
  of supplement from now on.

  ----------------
  Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:52:52 -0800
  From: Tom Jennings

  Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
  builder,
  but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
  critical by far.

  Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and flattened
  rod
  until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin it
  up
  until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
  the
  pump primed.

  No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine now,
  with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
  hard
  parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
  two. I
  dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
  high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?

  Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe the
  more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
  paranoid
  side when it comes to assembly.





  Greg DePratt wrote:

  > > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it up
  and found
  > > that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer. So I checked my
  oil
  > > pressure gauge and it is working. Next I checked the oil pressure
  gauge
  > > tube and also removed the tube from the port. Some oil will
  > come out of the
  > > port while it is running but not a lot. Next we removed the
  > distributor and
  > > turned the oil pump with a drill, thinking maybe the pump didn't
  get primed
  > > properly. Still no oil pressure. After scratching our heads
  > for a while we
  > > remembered that the local machine shop sent the block back to
  > us without any
  > > of the plugs in it. Usually they put the plugs back in the
  correct spots
  > > before giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
  unsure on
  > > the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake. With
  the drill
  > > turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing while looking
  into the oil
  > > fill tube. Is this the souce of my low oil pressure problem?
  Thought I
  > > would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to buy
  > a new gasket.
  > > > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5
  minutes. Do you
  > > think I could have damaged anthing?
  > > > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what
  size they
  > > are?
  > >
  --
  Frank Swygert
  Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
  Magazine (AMC)
  For all AMC enthusiasts
  http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
  (free download available!)



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  Message: 3
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:36:04 -0800
  From: Tom Jennings
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID: <491C8FB4.9060108@xxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  Joe Fulton wrote:
  > Yeah, but you're gonna be hauling your trailer with a 1963 AMC
  > brick. I don't think you're gonna save much gas by streamlining
  > something that's gonna be in turbulent air behind the brick. I
  > can understand how the wide trailer behind a Prius could benefit
  > from streamlining though.

  Well you went and spoilt my fun! :-) Hmm, more seriously, you're
  probably right. The wagon ain't no Prius. Wagons are probably lousy
  (aerodynamically) to begin with...


  ------------------------------

  Message: 4
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:39:28 -0800
  From: Tom Jennings
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Headlight Malfunction / Question
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID: <491C9080.7040207@xxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  Jim Blair wrote:
  > The other reason the lights burn out at about the same time is
  > they are the same age!

  You're so right! I always took that "replace both lamps at the same
  time" bit to be 100% marketing... buy two when you only need one! But
  it's only... 20% marketing... the do seem to burn out within a month
  or
  two of each other, and on my AMerican, I replaced one, the other died
  within a week. From now on I'll always do both!


  ------------------------------

  Message: 5
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:03:28 +0000
  From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Headlight Malfunction / Question
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID:
  <111320082103.1922.491C9620000CCC48000007822216548686CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>


  When one lamp on a circuit dies and is replaced the load on the
  circuit changes due to different flow on the new lamp. The other
  lamp or lamps will follow along and die if they are anyway near the
  end of their life.
  We had three clip lights plugged into an extension cord in a
  construction hall. I soon learned when one burned out replace them
  all. Then they would last a good while. If I only changed one it
  was never ending circuit of changing those three lamps one after
  another!
  Our Theatre lighting tech says the same with house lights. They
  all come on and go off at once, when the hall reaches about 20%
  failure many venues change them all at once to save setup and man
  hours.
  I have to replace the lamps in our 98 Altima, they are dimmer
  than trying to see out a tinted windshield on a rainy night! 10
  years old and neither has burned out, but the light produced has
  sure decreased!
  --
  Mark Price
  Morgantown, WV
  1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
  2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
  " I realize that death is inevitable.
  I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

  -------------- Original message ----------------------
  From: Tom Jennings
  > Jim Blair wrote:
  > > The other reason the lights burn out at about the same time is
  > they are the same age!
  >
  > You're so right! I always took that "replace both lamps at the
  > same time" bit to be 100% marketing... buy two when you only need
  > one! But it's only... 20% marketing... the do seem to burn out
  > within a month or two of each other, and on my AMerican, I
  > replaced one, the other died within a week. From now on I'll
  > always do both!
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  Message: 6
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:04:52 +0000
  From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID:
  <111320082104.4831.491C967400026643000012DF2216548686CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>


  Yeah sepcially with that silly inverted V on the 63 Classics
  grille....

  I better shut up for you actually get mad at me :)

  Just kidding honest!



  --
  Mark Price
  Morgantown, WV
  1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
  2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
  " I realize that death is inevitable.
  I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

  -------------- Original message ----------------------
  From: Tom Jennings
  > Joe Fulton wrote:
  > > Yeah, but you're gonna be hauling your trailer with a 1963 AMC
  > brick. I don't think you're gonna save much gas by streamlining
  > something that's gonna be in turbulent air behind the brick. I
  > can understand how the wide trailer behind a Prius could benefit
  > from streamlining though.
  >
  > Well you went and spoilt my fun! :-) Hmm, more seriously, you're
  > probably right. The wagon ain't no Prius. Wagons are probably
  > lousy (aerodynamically) to begin with...
  > _______________________________________________
  > Amc-list mailing list
  > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  > http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list



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  Message: 7
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:30:49 -0800
  From: Tom Jennings
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 195.6 ohv head oiling
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID: <491CAA99.9040401@xxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  Joe Fulton wrote:
  > Tom,
  >
  > Put a picture of the 1958 block up on the web or send me one.
  > I'd like to compare it to several engines I have around here,
  > which are all 1963 through 1965 blocks I think.

  http://wps.com/AMC/1963-Rambler-American/Engine/

  Here 'tis. Scroll down past the crap text to see the photos. Not
  labelled yet, it's all a placeholder page.


  ------------------------------

  Message: 8
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:49:53 -0500
  From: "Bruce Griffis"
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID:

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

  That inverted V rules! The Electra-Shave Classic is my favorite!

  On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM, wrote:
  > Yeah sepcially with that silly inverted V on the 63 Classics
  grille....
  >
  > I better shut up for you actually get mad at me :)
  >
  > Just kidding honest!


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  Message: 9
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:07:23 -0500
  From: Richard Estermyer
  Subject: [Amc-list] e-bay Specials-3 days left....
  To:
  Message-ID:
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


  Just listed 17 shirts that are pre-printed and left overs at
  special pricing for BuyItNow e-bay auctions. They are for 3 days
  as there are 3 days left on the other auctions. Clearing some
  stuff out so as not to pack it up in the move.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268974704&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&viewitem=
  Here is a starting link to a XXXL shirt, have XXL XL L and M sizes.
  S/CRambler, Javelin AMX Gremlinman, etc all $6.50 BuyItNow. NEW NEVER
  WORN, one of a kind printed and ready to
  go.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268135142&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&viewitem=
  PrePrinted and vinyl cut license plates opening bid $3.00 or BuyItNow
  $3.01 also have some USED license plates from different states
  starting at $2.00 opening
  bid.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268135482&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&viewitem=
  Preprinted Coffee Mugs opening bid $3.00 BuyItNow $3.50 S/C Rambler,
  Javelin AMX, Marlin
  Logo

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=130268135989
  3 Tootsie Toy
  Gremlins

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=130268136264
  Even models, JoHan 69 AMX, 75 Coke Matador, AMT 69 AMX, Jeep CJ7 and
  more, some open most
  not.

  Also have a Hot Wheels MetroRail that I had autographed by Larry
  Woods, a 35 year designer for Hot Wheels and the design creator of
  the Metrorail. All this from my collection stuff. 1st Garage
  SAle starts tomorrow IF you're in the area stop by for a
  coffee.Blessings,Richard Estermyer
  javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  _________________________________________________________________
  See how Windows? connects the people, information, and fun that are
  part of your life
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  Message: 10
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:23:00 -0700
  From: Ken Ames
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID: <1226618580.491cb6d47e4c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  There'll be 2 at the back of the engine also, at the ends of the
  lifter galleries.

  Ken


  Quoting "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)" :

  >
  > Well, there are not only those 2 plugs under the intake, but also 2
  in
  > the front of the engine under the cam gear area. Are those also
  > missing??
  >
  > George Graham
  > AMC of Houston -----Original Message-----
  > From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November
  > 13, 2008 1:53 AM
  > To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
  > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
  >
  > Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
  builder,
  > but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
  > critical by far.
  >
  > Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and
  flattened rod
  > until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin
  it up
  > until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
  the
  > pump primed.
  >
  > No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine
  now,
  > with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
  hard
  > parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
  two. I
  > dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
  > high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?
  >
  > Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe
  the
  > more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
  paranoid
  > side when it comes to assembly.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Greg DePratt wrote:
  > > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it
  > up and > found that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer.
  > So I checked > my oil pressure gauge and it is working. Next I
  > checked the oil > pressure gauge tube and also removed the tube
  > from the port. Some oil
  >
  > > will come out of the port while it is running but not a lot.
  > Next we > removed the distributor and turned the oil pump with a
  > drill, thinking
  >
  > > maybe the pump didn't get primed properly. Still no oil
  > pressure. > After scratching our heads for a while we remembered
  > that the local > machine shop sent the block back to us without
  > any of the plugs in it.
  >
  > > Usually they put the plugs back in the correct spots before
  > giving it > back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
  > unsure on the two > plugs at the front of the engine under the
  > intake. With the drill > turning the oil pump we see a lot of
  > oil flowing while looking into > the oil fill tube. Is this the
  > souce of my low oil pressure problem?
  > Thought I would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have
  to buy
  > a new gasket.
  > > > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5
  > minutes. Do > you think I could have damaged anthing?
  > > > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know
  > what size > they are?
  > > > Thanks for you help!
  > > > Greg DePratt
  > > 68 Javelin SST
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  Message: 11
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:24:46 -0700
  From: Ken Ames
  Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Pacer UFO
  To: Eddie Stakes , "AMC/Rambler
  owners, drivers and fans."
  Message-ID: <1226618686.491cb73e9751f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  Yet another AMC with a "V-6".

  Ken


  Quoting Eddie Stakes :

  >
  > I happened upon this on craigslist and thought it worth sharing,
  > check out the Pacer UFO. Neat looking car.
  >
  > http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/889547306.html
  >
  > Eddie Stakes
  > 713.464.8825
  > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > www.planethoustonamx.com
  >
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  Message: 12
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:39:38 -0600
  From: "Eddie Stakes"
  Subject: [Amc-list] Fw: Water pump pulley alignment question
  To: ,
  Cc: james_stevens@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Message-ID: <025001c945f9$de76f140$b3621e4c@piageedc1iqa5q>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

  James is having some difficulties lining up his pulleys after
  putting in new waterpump. If anyone here has any suggestions or
  comments please feel free to help out and thanks in advance to all
  who might. Be sure to also copy your reply to James diectly.
  Eddie Stakes
  713.464.8825
  eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.planethoustonamx.com

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Stevens, James

  Subject: Water pump question


  I put an aftermarket High volume water pump on my javelin and now
  the pulley's don't

  Align. The new pump puts the pulley about ? inch to the front of
  the crank pulley. Any suggestions on what to do or what pulley to
  use to fix this. Jim Stevens James_stevens@xxxxxxxxxxx
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  Message: 13
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:31:15 -0500
  From: Brien Tourville
  Subject: [Amc-list] Coroner Inquest :] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil
  Pressure
  To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Message-ID: <491CE2F3.409@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  Still no oil pressure.? After scratching our heads for a while we
  remembered that the local machine shop sent the block back to us
  without any
  of the plugs in it.? Usually they put the plugs back in the correct
  spots
  before giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
  unsure on
  the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake.? With the
  drill
  turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing while looking into
  the oil
  fill tube.? Is this the source of my low oil pressure problem??
  Thought I
  would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to buy a new
  gasket.
  The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5 minutes.? Do
  you
  think I could have damaged anything?
  If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what size
  they
  are?
  Thanks for you help!
  Greg DePratt
  68 Javelin SST



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  Street Car School of Hard Knocks Greg !

  If you don't already have one of the excellent Books on Building an
  AMC Engine,
  ask around on the List and the Bulltear.com/forum for
  recommendations.

  These make great reading so reading it twice will double the fun.

  Pull the Dead 343, re_install it on the Engine Stand & perform a
  Documented
  Tear down.

  Have an Autopsy Table cleared to place parts in an organized array as
  they
  are removed - inspected & photographed.

  Organize and tag each bolt as to which hole it came out of & check
  them
  for bottoming, clean threads etc.

  Take the Engine down to bare block & compare against reference
  material - Books on AMC Engines - and input from this List and
  www.bulltear.com/forum.

  Ask .

  As anyone who's rebuilt an AMC Engine will tell you - 'you can't
  build them
  like a Chevy'.


  That the 343 didn't grenade after 5 minutes without Oil Pressure
  tells me it'll grenade on the Street if you just address the
  Oiling problem only.

  If it were me, after curing the Oiling Issue, I would replace the
  Bearings & inspect the camshaft for spidering or scoring of lobe
  surface / lifter base surfaces & replace at the slightest hint
  of question ability......... cam kits with new lifters are cheap
  insurance.


  Read up on the bulltear.com/forum on AMC OIl Pumps - lots of fun
  there for sure!




  milnersXcoupe
  1981 series50





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