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1. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
(Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy))
2. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure (Frank Swygert)
3. Re: A toy for Travell er (camper time!) (Tom Jennings)
4. Re: Headlight Malfunction / Question (Tom Jennings)
5. Re: Headlight Malfunction / Question (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
6. Re: A toy for Traveller (camper time!) (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
7. Re: 195.6 ohv head oiling (Tom Jennings)
8. Re: A toy for Traveller (camper time!) (Bruce Griffis)
9. e-bay Specials-3 days left.... (Richard Estermyer)
10. Re: recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure (Ken Ames)
11. Re: Pacer UFO (Ken Ames)
12. Fw: Water pump pulley alignment question (Eddie Stakes)
13. Coroner Inquest :] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
(Brien Tourville)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:00:02 -0500
From: "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)"
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
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Well, there are not only those 2 plugs under the intake, but also 2
in
the front of the engine under the cam gear area. Are those also
missing??
George Graham
AMC of Houston
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:53 AM
To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
builder,
but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
critical by far.
Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and flattened
rod
until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin it
up
until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
the
pump primed.
No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine now,
with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
hard
parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
two. I
dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?
Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe the
more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
paranoid
side when it comes to assembly.
Greg DePratt wrote:
> Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it up
> and found that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer. So I
> checked my oil pressure gauge and it is working. Next I checked
> the oil pressure gauge tube and also removed the tube from the
> port. Some oil
> will come out of the port while it is running but not a lot.
> Next we removed the distributor and turned the oil pump with a
> drill, thinking
> maybe the pump didn't get primed properly. Still no oil
> pressure. After scratching our heads for a while we remembered
> that the local machine shop sent the block back to us without any
> of the plugs in it.
> Usually they put the plugs back in the correct spots before
> giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were unsure
> on the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake.
> With the drill turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing
> while looking into the oil fill tube. Is this the souce of my
> low oil pressure problem?
Thought I would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to
buy
a new gasket.
>
> The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5 minutes.
> Do you think I could have damaged anthing?
>
> If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what
> size they are?
>
> Thanks for you help!
>
> Greg DePratt
> 68 Javelin SST
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:04:20 -0500
From: Frank Swygert
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
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I missed that post somehow! I'm ranking about the same as Tom --
"experienced amateur builder". Those two plugs at the top near the
front of the valley DO have to be plugged. IIRC they are 3/8"
plugs, but I'm not 100% certain. Those plug the holes that are
drilled through the block to the lifter galleries (and pump on one
side). Without the plugs you were just running oil up into the
valley. It wasn't building pressure because there was nothing
slowing the oil's progress through the pump and out the top.
If you used a good assembly lube you SHOULD be okay. Install the
plugs, prime the engine with a drill before you start it to make
sure you have oil pressure (the drill may not pump up much over 10
psi before it bogs down), then start it.
I doubt you did enough damage to warrant disassembly. If you did,
you'll know right after it cranks up and starts knocking. You may
as well fire it up and see. At worst my guess is you took a few
hundred miles off the bearings (assuming a good assembly lube was
used). You should be fine on the camshaft also, as there was no oil
to wash the lube away.
Make sure you use a good break-in oil additive! With today's low
ZDDP oils that's VERY important. I'd run the additive in the second
batch of oil too (in the second oil change). Unless you are using
stiffer than stock valve springs you should be fine after the
second oil change with regular oil, but it won't hurt to run a bit
of supplement from now on.
----------------
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:52:52 -0800
From: Tom Jennings
Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
builder,
but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
critical by far.
Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and flattened
rod
until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin it
up
until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
the
pump primed.
No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine now,
with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
hard
parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
two. I
dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?
Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe the
more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
paranoid
side when it comes to assembly.
Greg DePratt wrote:
> > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it up
and found
> > that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer. So I checked my
oil
> > pressure gauge and it is working. Next I checked the oil pressure
gauge
> > tube and also removed the tube from the port. Some oil will
> come out of the
> > port while it is running but not a lot. Next we removed the
> distributor and
> > turned the oil pump with a drill, thinking maybe the pump didn't
get primed
> > properly. Still no oil pressure. After scratching our heads
> for a while we
> > remembered that the local machine shop sent the block back to
> us without any
> > of the plugs in it. Usually they put the plugs back in the
correct spots
> > before giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
unsure on
> > the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake. With
the drill
> > turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing while looking
into the oil
> > fill tube. Is this the souce of my low oil pressure problem?
Thought I
> > would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to buy
> a new gasket.
> > > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5
minutes. Do you
> > think I could have damaged anthing?
> > > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what
size they
> > are?
> >
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
(free download available!)
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:36:04 -0800
From: Tom Jennings
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
Message-ID: <491C8FB4.9060108@xxxxxxx>
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Joe Fulton wrote:
> Yeah, but you're gonna be hauling your trailer with a 1963 AMC
> brick. I don't think you're gonna save much gas by streamlining
> something that's gonna be in turbulent air behind the brick. I
> can understand how the wide trailer behind a Prius could benefit
> from streamlining though.
Well you went and spoilt my fun! :-) Hmm, more seriously, you're
probably right. The wagon ain't no Prius. Wagons are probably lousy
(aerodynamically) to begin with...
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:39:28 -0800
From: Tom Jennings
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Headlight Malfunction / Question
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
Message-ID: <491C9080.7040207@xxxxxxx>
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Jim Blair wrote:
> The other reason the lights burn out at about the same time is
> they are the same age!
You're so right! I always took that "replace both lamps at the same
time" bit to be 100% marketing... buy two when you only need one! But
it's only... 20% marketing... the do seem to burn out within a month
or
two of each other, and on my AMerican, I replaced one, the other died
within a week. From now on I'll always do both!
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:03:28 +0000
From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Headlight Malfunction / Question
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
Message-ID:
<111320082103.1922.491C9620000CCC48000007822216548686CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
When one lamp on a circuit dies and is replaced the load on the
circuit changes due to different flow on the new lamp. The other
lamp or lamps will follow along and die if they are anyway near the
end of their life.
We had three clip lights plugged into an extension cord in a
construction hall. I soon learned when one burned out replace them
all. Then they would last a good while. If I only changed one it
was never ending circuit of changing those three lamps one after
another!
Our Theatre lighting tech says the same with house lights. They
all come on and go off at once, when the hall reaches about 20%
failure many venues change them all at once to save setup and man
hours.
I have to replace the lamps in our 98 Altima, they are dimmer
than trying to see out a tinted windshield on a rainy night! 10
years old and neither has burned out, but the light produced has
sure decreased!
--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings
> Jim Blair wrote:
> > The other reason the lights burn out at about the same time is
> they are the same age!
>
> You're so right! I always took that "replace both lamps at the
> same time" bit to be 100% marketing... buy two when you only need
> one! But it's only... 20% marketing... the do seem to burn out
> within a month or two of each other, and on my AMerican, I
> replaced one, the other died within a week. From now on I'll
> always do both!
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:04:52 +0000
From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
Message-ID:
<111320082104.4831.491C967400026643000012DF2216548686CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Yeah sepcially with that silly inverted V on the 63 Classics
grille....
I better shut up for you actually get mad at me :)
Just kidding honest!
--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings
> Joe Fulton wrote:
> > Yeah, but you're gonna be hauling your trailer with a 1963 AMC
> brick. I don't think you're gonna save much gas by streamlining
> something that's gonna be in turbulent air behind the brick. I
> can understand how the wide trailer behind a Prius could benefit
> from streamlining though.
>
> Well you went and spoilt my fun! :-) Hmm, more seriously, you're
> probably right. The wagon ain't no Prius. Wagons are probably
> lousy (aerodynamically) to begin with...
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:30:49 -0800
From: Tom Jennings
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 195.6 ohv head oiling
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
Message-ID: <491CAA99.9040401@xxxxxxx>
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Joe Fulton wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Put a picture of the 1958 block up on the web or send me one.
> I'd like to compare it to several engines I have around here,
> which are all 1963 through 1965 blocks I think.
http://wps.com/AMC/1963-Rambler-American/Engine/
Here 'tis. Scroll down past the crap text to see the photos. Not
labelled yet, it's all a placeholder page.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:49:53 -0500
From: "Bruce Griffis"
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A toy for Traveller (camper time!)
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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That inverted V rules! The Electra-Shave Classic is my favorite!
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM, wrote:
> Yeah sepcially with that silly inverted V on the 63 Classics
grille....
>
> I better shut up for you actually get mad at me :)
>
> Just kidding honest!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:07:23 -0500
From: Richard Estermyer
Subject: [Amc-list] e-bay Specials-3 days left....
To:
Message-ID:
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Just listed 17 shirts that are pre-printed and left overs at
special pricing for BuyItNow e-bay auctions. They are for 3 days
as there are 3 days left on the other auctions. Clearing some
stuff out so as not to pack it up in the move.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268974704&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&viewitem=
Here is a starting link to a XXXL shirt, have XXL XL L and M sizes.
S/CRambler, Javelin AMX Gremlinman, etc all $6.50 BuyItNow. NEW NEVER
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go.
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PrePrinted and vinyl cut license plates opening bid $3.00 or BuyItNow
$3.01 also have some USED license plates from different states
starting at $2.00 opening
bid.
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Preprinted Coffee Mugs opening bid $3.00 BuyItNow $3.50 S/C Rambler,
Javelin AMX, Marlin
Logo
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Gremlins
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Even models, JoHan 69 AMX, 75 Coke Matador, AMT 69 AMX, Jeep CJ7 and
more, some open most
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Also have a Hot Wheels MetroRail that I had autographed by Larry
Woods, a 35 year designer for Hot Wheels and the design creator of
the Metrorail. All this from my collection stuff. 1st Garage
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:23:00 -0700
From: Ken Ames
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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There'll be 2 at the back of the engine also, at the ends of the
lifter galleries.
Ken
Quoting "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)" :
>
> Well, there are not only those 2 plugs under the intake, but also 2
in
> the front of the engine under the cam gear area. Are those also
> missing??
>
> George Graham
> AMC of Houston -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November
> 13, 2008 1:53 AM
> To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
>
> Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine
builder,
> but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
> critical by far.
>
> Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and
flattened rod
> until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin
it up
> until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and
the
> pump primed.
>
> No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine
now,
> with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined
hard
> parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or
two. I
> dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
> high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?
>
> Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe
the
> more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the
paranoid
> side when it comes to assembly.
>
>
>
>
>
> Greg DePratt wrote:
> > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin. Fired it
> up and > found that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer.
> So I checked > my oil pressure gauge and it is working. Next I
> checked the oil > pressure gauge tube and also removed the tube
> from the port. Some oil
>
> > will come out of the port while it is running but not a lot.
> Next we > removed the distributor and turned the oil pump with a
> drill, thinking
>
> > maybe the pump didn't get primed properly. Still no oil
> pressure. > After scratching our heads for a while we remembered
> that the local > machine shop sent the block back to us without
> any of the plugs in it.
>
> > Usually they put the plugs back in the correct spots before
> giving it > back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
> unsure on the two > plugs at the front of the engine under the
> intake. With the drill > turning the oil pump we see a lot of
> oil flowing while looking into > the oil fill tube. Is this the
> souce of my low oil pressure problem?
> Thought I would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have
to buy
> a new gasket.
> > > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5
> minutes. Do > you think I could have damaged anthing?
> > > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know
> what size > they are?
> > > Thanks for you help!
> > > Greg DePratt
> > 68 Javelin SST
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:24:46 -0700
From: Ken Ames
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Pacer UFO
To: Eddie Stakes , "AMC/Rambler
owners, drivers and fans."
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Yet another AMC with a "V-6".
Ken
Quoting Eddie Stakes :
>
> I happened upon this on craigslist and thought it worth sharing,
> check out the Pacer UFO. Neat looking car.
>
> http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/889547306.html
>
> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:39:38 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes"
Subject: [Amc-list] Fw: Water pump pulley alignment question
To: ,
Cc: james_stevens@xxxxxxxxxxx
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James is having some difficulties lining up his pulleys after
putting in new waterpump. If anyone here has any suggestions or
comments please feel free to help out and thanks in advance to all
who might. Be sure to also copy your reply to James diectly.
Eddie Stakes
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Stevens, James
Subject: Water pump question
I put an aftermarket High volume water pump on my javelin and now
the pulley's don't
Align. The new pump puts the pulley about ? inch to the front of
the crank pulley. Any suggestions on what to do or what pulley to
use to fix this. Jim Stevens James_stevens@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:31:15 -0500
From: Brien Tourville
Subject: [Amc-list] Coroner Inquest :] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil
Pressure
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Still no oil pressure.? After scratching our heads for a while we
remembered that the local machine shop sent the block back to us
without any
of the plugs in it.? Usually they put the plugs back in the correct
spots
before giving it back. We installed all the plugs we had but were
unsure on
the two plugs at the front of the engine under the intake.? With the
drill
turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing while looking into
the oil
fill tube.? Is this the source of my low oil pressure problem??
Thought I
would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to buy a new
gasket.
The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5 minutes.? Do
you
think I could have damaged anything?
If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what size
they
are?
Thanks for you help!
Greg DePratt
68 Javelin SST
--
Street Car School of Hard Knocks Greg !
If you don't already have one of the excellent Books on Building an
AMC Engine,
ask around on the List and the Bulltear.com/forum for
recommendations.
These make great reading so reading it twice will double the fun.
Pull the Dead 343, re_install it on the Engine Stand & perform a
Documented
Tear down.
Have an Autopsy Table cleared to place parts in an organized array as
they
are removed - inspected & photographed.
Organize and tag each bolt as to which hole it came out of & check
them
for bottoming, clean threads etc.
Take the Engine down to bare block & compare against reference
material - Books on AMC Engines - and input from this List and
www.bulltear.com/forum.
Ask .
As anyone who's rebuilt an AMC Engine will tell you - 'you can't
build them
like a Chevy'.
That the 343 didn't grenade after 5 minutes without Oil Pressure
tells me it'll grenade on the Street if you just address the
Oiling problem only.
If it were me, after curing the Oiling Issue, I would replace the
Bearings & inspect the camshaft for spidering or scoring of lobe
surface / lifter base surfaces & replace at the slightest hint
of question ability......... cam kits with new lifters are cheap
insurance.
Read up on the bulltear.com/forum on AMC OIl Pumps - lots of fun
there for sure!
milnersXcoupe
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