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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: To Choke or Not to Choke (Nick Lenarz)
   2. lighting with LEDs (Jim Blair)
   3. lighting with LEDs (Jim Blair)
   4. interesting link (Eddie Stakes)
   5. Re: Blue light special HELP (Tom Jennings)
   6. 71 Javelin trade for another AMC (Eddie Stakes)
   7. front, rear spoiler, bellhousing wanted 71 Javelin (Eddie Stakes)
   8. 55 amp alt & r/valance wanted 70 AMX (Eddie Stakes)
   9. Javelin AMX 68-69 power steering pump wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  10. Pierre Cardin interior wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  11. 69 Rebel front bumper wanted (Eddie Stakes)
  12. AMX & Javelin gauge & tach restoration decals (Eddie Stakes)
  13. 390V8 for sale (Eddie Stakes)
  14. 87 Eagle Limited for sale (Eddie Stakes)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:51:17 -0500
From: Nick Lenarz <n9viw@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] To Choke or Not to Choke
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62jkatwD43o00000bdb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

That's not a choke, that's a GAG! :P

Nick

On December 6, 2006 markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Dead mice in the heater box and above the hardboard headliners also
work well for a good choke!
> --
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
> 
> 
> ---- Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Nick Lenarz wrote:
> >
> > > The NEW problem is that it won't idle when cold.
> >
> > > Anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > <>
> >
> >
> > I;ve found Yak Dung, spread gingerly over
> > the exhaust manifold and heat riser while bouncing
> > the butterfly and chanting: 'Putin-Putin' holds promise...
> > anyone with similar results ?
> >
> >
> >         =Bt=
> >   milnersXcoupe
> >    "The Heretic"
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 08:13:46 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] lighting with LEDs
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F226A1A8D1D86EBAF6FB18CACD20@xxxxxxx>
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You can adjust the brightness of some of the LED bulbs. I'm looking at the 
1895 replacement for my military lights that were rigged into the interior 
of my Comanche as well as 12VDC lighting for my cabin. (I run everything 
there off a 4D battery that has a solar panel to keep it charged up)

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 08:14:29 -0800
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] lighting with LEDs
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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You can adjust the brightness of some of the LED bulbs. I'm looking at the 
1895 replacement for my military lights that were rigged into the interior 
of my Comanche as well as 12VDC lighting for my cabin. (I run everything 
there off a 4D battery that has a solar panel to keep it charged up)

http://www.ledtronics.com/pages/faq/faq_dimming.htm

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:09:07 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] interesting link
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I got this from a website wishing to trade links with my site. Check out the 
tow truck and the car being towed!
http://www.junkmycar.com/
at least they are not AMC, but not sure anyone would want to use that as a 
tow truck, not that it could haul plywood, and not sure anyone would want to 
tow away the one on the hook either!
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:26:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Blue light special HELP
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Strokers <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"AMC-DelMarVA: yahoogroups.com" <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612090947170.5833@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

(oops, this ended up kinda long :-)


On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Mark Price wrote:

> I know LEDS won't dim, I don't care I run dash lights at full.
> if I choose Leds, 
> which ones?
> Where do I buy them?
> 
> This may seem trivial, but it won't be easy for me to accomplish bulb changes after the final install, so I'd like to get this right!

Hell, you stare at the things the whole time you're in the seat,
you might as well get them right! I don't think it's trivial.


You CAN dim LEDs, they just don't dim as evenly with the dimmer
as lamps do; no harm done. I bought LED lamp replacements
from Digikey.  Digikey sells the latest semiconductor stuff to
industry and their interface is harsh and brutal and thorough
and good.

Go to their home page, www.digikey.com.

enter "LED lamp replacements" in the search box. Click search.

Next page, click the ITEMS IN STOCK box. Click search again.

You should get a table of items. AMC dash lamps are Wedge
base. There's a filter selection for "CAN REPLACE LAMPS..." with
194's. (The "red" vs "red clear" etc is just the color
of the enclosing plastic; it doesn't matter in dashboard
application.) You can CONTROL-CLICK or SHIFT-CLICK to select
more than one thing in the filter.

(To see the most lamps that might fit, I selected WEDGE and 12V,
ignoring the "CAN REPLACE..." column.)


I put some of these in my dash indicators (ALT, OIL, turns,
etc). For that they are a drop-in except as noted below...


Some warnings with LEDs in cars:

One, the light pattern. Incandescent lamps dump light in a
spherical pattern; there's just a hot wire throwing off light in
all directions.  LEDs are very directional; they squirt light
straight out. This is perfect for dash turn signal indicators
etc but lousy for dash gauge illumination. In an unrelated project,
I sanded the molded clear plastic "bulb" with 180 grit to make
a diffuse pattern. It helped.

Two, LEDs are a LOT LESS BRIGHT overall than incandescents.
The light produced within the narrow beam pattern is fine
(why they work so well for turn indicators) but if you spread
it out, it's pretty dim. There are multi-LED lamps for things
like taillights though.

(I'm working on illuminating the Hornet gauges with white LEDs,
but I bought a dozen submini LEDs and will carve a diffusor out
of PTEG plastic and fit it around the gauge faces. I already
did this to the heater control, it worked great.)

Three, they don't draw much current, which is 99% of the time
just wonderful.  But I have two problem areas, both fixable:

    * For the ALTernator light, it doesn't draw enough
      current for the alternator to start producing
      output! You'll have to rev the engine to about 2000 rpm,
      once, then the alt light will go out. I've been driving
      this way for a year. Next time I take the dash out I'll
      solder a resistor onto the back of the dash circuit board.

    * For the OIL idiot light, the oil pressure sender you;ll
      be surprised to see isn't exactly a perfect ON/OFF
      switch. When it's off (eg. oil pressure, dash light off)
      it may leak a few milliamps of current -- enough to light
      the LED! More scary, you wash off the engine, and a bit
      of moisture makes it pass 5 - 10 milliamps and the LED
      comes on bright! It's otherwise harmless, and would
      be fixed by paralleling a resistor onto the board.

      (The added resistor will consume current like the original
      lamp did; a #194 lamp draws .27amps, which you could
      simulate with a 68 ohm, 5-watt resistor. That's making 3
      watts of heat, which seems silly. I think something like
      .05 amps would do it (make the alt start; oil light out)
      which would be about 270 ohms, 1 watt. Probably less will
      work; I'll experiment some time.)

Four, some few of these LED lamp replacements are polarized. I
think just the bayonet-base ones, with the center wire is +12V,
and the brass shell is ground. Since I've never seen a car that
uses these lamps wired any other way it doesn't matter unless
you use an insulated socket with pigtail leads.



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:17:19 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 71 Javelin trade for another AMC
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: javelinjunki@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009001c71bc0$a029e740$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hello, I would like to trade a 1971 Javelin SST solid project for a Hornet 
hatchback, a first generation AMX, an AMX Hornet/Spirit or possibly a Rebel. 
I would consider other AMC models also.I am in Northern New Mexico (505), 
Chris, javelinjunki@xxxxxxxxx
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anyone interested in a possible trade give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:19:52 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] front, rear spoiler, bellhousing wanted 71 Javelin
To: <baadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: mcbrydejohn@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009301c71bc0$a1709810$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

wanted front and rear spoiler and a manual tranny bellhousing for a 1971 
javelin amc. my email is mcbrydejohn@xxxxxxxxx  alpena AR
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anyone that can help them out give them a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:18:12 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 55 amp alt & r/valance wanted 70 AMX
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: arnieg@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009101c71bc0$a07aed70$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Looking for the correct 1970 55 amp alternator dead or alive for my 70 AMX 
w/air and also a rust free rear valance panel. Thanks for the space Eddie ! 
Arnie arnieg@xxxxxxxxxxxx  508-274-0099 cell
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anyone that can help out Arnie give him a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:20:49 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Javelin AMX 68-69 power steering pump wanted
To: <baadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: wsw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009401c71bc0$a1c8ca30$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

68-69 (WANTED) AMC Javlin/AMX power steering pump in decent condition. Email 
me at wsw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  with condition, price, and or pictures.
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anyone that can help out give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:18:51 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Pierre Cardin interior wanted
To: <baadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <009201c71bc0$a0cc1ab0$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Wanted Pierre Cardin interior needed to finish off my 72. I am located in 
Southern California Thanx! Tony Blum 3107481042
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anyone that can help out give Tony a call thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:21:35 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 69 Rebel front bumper wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: petarm1@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009501c71bc0$a219d060$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

I am looking for a front bumper to fit a 1969 amc rebel sst.willing to 
rechrome but needs to be strait. Also still looking for a left rear 
taillight assembly.contact me at petarm1@xxxxxxxxx  or call 780-513-1412 
gtrande prairie alberta canada
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anyone that can help out feel free to give them a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:22:42 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMX & Javelin gauge & tach restoration decals
To: <baadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: MPARKSMCE@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009601c71bc0$a2747380$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

69 70 JAVELIN AMX TACH AND GAUGE RESTORATION DECALS I have been working on 
these for a year, and finally have a product that i feel is ready. Although 
not concourse they are very good,I did these for myself, and I am a picky 
SOB, and friends told me they wanted some so i did a small batch!!There 
isn't a stock 35 year old set out there that even come close to looking this 
good!. I did them several ways, stock and custom for guys that want 
something different. I also did the clock so all the gauges look fresh. I 
did the 69's stock, the silver with the black clock, and every gauge silver, 
the clock the fuel and temp gauge can be had in silver too, I also did them 
in white for the new modern look, kinda hot roddy type.They have a very 
orange red line like stock! The 70's are done stock or in total white, 
including the clock in white.The red line is very very orange like stock! 
Again,not concourse but nice, absolutely the best I could do, with out 
spending 5 grand in tooling! It's a thermal process, also called thermal 
silk screening, on a 10 year film so down the road they wont peel. I also 
put some tabs so you don't handle the gauge face area, causing the oils from 
your skin making them peel later. Email and i will be glad to send pics!I 
made these 5 times before i got them to the point that i would say anyone 
with a little mechanical ability can do them. I'm working on a website to 
post pics and directions! Complete kit at $29.95 plus $4.95 priority 
shipping! Mark 317-945-2568 days mparksmce@xxxxxxx  I'm in southern Indiana 
47112!
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anyone interested in the restoration decals give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:27:50 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 390V8 for sale
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: javelinjulie@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009801c71bc0$a3084f10$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

1969 amc 390 engine. Valve cover tag 201W20. Apart and complete minus the 
valve covers. Was balanced mangnafluxed about 10 years ago. Bought it with 2 
cars as a package deal. Took it apart 5 years ago and had it sitting since. 
Needs to be cleaned back up, some surface rust especially on one head. Bad 
thing is it has 12.1 compression flat top pistons so racing fuel a must. I 
was planning on lowering the compression with a later set of heads. I think 
the guy spent around $900 on the pistons alone and they were balanced to the 
motor so I dont want to go back to factory ones. Located in IL. Motor is a t 
a business and can be shipped out if you scedule a truck to come get it. Had 
this on ebay befor but no bites. Asking $1,500 firm. Contact Julie. 
javelinjulie@xxxxxxx
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anyone interested in the engine for sale give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:25:43 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 87 Eagle Limited for sale
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: eagleamx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <009701c71bc0$a2be4dc0$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

for sale 1987 eagle ltd s/w just under 103K miles dark blue (woodgrain 
removed, all dark blue) body straight exept for small (hail?)dent in hood 
and hatch slightly bent up on drivers side,both before my time. i am 2nd 
owner, bought 4 years ago at 97K. i had the woodgrain removed,as well as new 
exhaust front to rear w/new conv.& 2 1/4 inch pipe,new brakes front & rear 
w/new rotors, has all options,power windows seats locks, etc. all work,locks 
sticky, good tires, need A/C control panel, rear window defroster 
switch,valve cover gasket, hatch weatherstrip lost job, son in college, 
please make reasonable offer jarold sparks 901 826 1994 cell 
eagleamx@xxxxxxxxxxx  AMO# 8492 memphis,tn area
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anyone interested in the Eagle give them a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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