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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 6 hole spacer (Matt Haas)
2. 6 hole spacer (JOE FULTON)
3. Forged 290-360 I-beam rods (Nick ALFANO)
4. Re: Was 6 hole spacer, Now Reinforcement (JOE FULTON)
5. Re: Two Hornet/Gremlin Inst. Questions (Tom Jennings)
6. (no subject) (mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx)
7. Re: The Kiss of Death (Frank Swygert)
8. Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over (Frank Swygert)
9. Re: 6 hole spacer (Frank Swygert)
10. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 (M Walter)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:27:42 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On my 67 American, there is a small plate that goes behind the flex plate.
It's not a spacer, it's a reinforcement plate.
Matt
At 01:58 AM 7/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>Good. What's the correct answer?
>
>Todd
>
>On Friday 30 June 2006 16:09, JOE FULTON wrote:
> > Never mind folks. I found a diagram.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe Fulton
> > Salinas, CA
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mhaas@xxxxxxx
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1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:53:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Todd wanted to know the answer.
There is a spacer on the transmission side of the flex
plate between the flex plate and the torque convertor.
I found one in my box of parts from when I had
disassembled the Gremlin and the donor Hornet. I did
not remember where it went, but I found a diagram in
the 67-72 parts book.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:16:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods
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Jim,
You are right, you still have a cast crank. That is a
much, much larger investment than the rods in which so
far, there has not been enough support to move forward
with a forged crank. I have looked into making a
forged crank and rod stroker set up that would work on
most of our engines to increase the cubic inch. I
would have to be a complete rotating assembly with
pistons balance to drop right in. If I had at least a
dozen guys right off the bat who would pony up some
money, I would seriously consider moving forward.
Even with a cast crank in the smaller engines, the
cast rods are the weaker link. In most applications,
the crank will hold up much longer and at higher rpms
than the rods will. Baby steps. Work on the weaker
parts and the stuff that will sell and then hopefully
tackle the larger more expensive parts later.
Thanks,
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-308-1302
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends.
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:29:09 -0400
From: "Jim Boone" <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Nick,
Not to sound like a D-A, but even with forged rods &
pistons, you still
have
a cast crank. Wouldn't that still be a weak link on a
high power
engine?
I do have a spare 360, maybe it's time to rethink that
one...
Jim Boone
Mims, FL
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:51:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Was 6 hole spacer, Now Reinforcement
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OK, reinforcing plate.
Picky, picky, picky.
(Pat Paulson, 1970s)
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
(getting to the good part, putting the Gremlin X back
together).
Have a good 4th of July weekend guys and gals.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Two Hornet/Gremlin Inst. Questions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006, Mr. AMC wrote:
> One, what year did AMC start putting kilometers on the speedo's? And two
> what year did they change the ohms on the fuel tank sender?
Two, they change all over the place! 1973 Hornet is NOT the
same as 1970 Hornet -- ask me how I know. OK, I'll tell you (bet
you weren't ready for that) -- I stuck my parts car 73's in my
70, and "empty" was about half a tank. They looked the same,
so I didn't check. However the rheostat cards are different,
because the contour on the bottom of the tank are different.
I fixed the 70.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:41:36 GMT
From: mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] (no subject)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, to@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Gen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, AMC-List, change@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, @turing.wps.com,
over@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
Frank, Is correct in his assumption of a different tail shaft housing for the
1966 cars with a 290 V-8 engine. It is in the AMC factory parts books. The 290
V-8 was available for the last 3 months of the 1966 model year with the 290 as
an option in place of the 287 V-8. I do not know how many were many but it is
in the parts books. I've never seen one so the the 200 or less would be a good
guess at the very least. Classics I'm fairly sure of, Marlins or Ambassadors I
could not say. There seems to be no factory records, only a listing in the
parts book that it was done on a very limited basis. Jeeps keep the 327 V-8
though the 1969 model year. I don't know if they were left overs or if AMC made
more for Jeep for a couple more years.
One last comment: DCX is bring back to the USA a reincarnation of the
Metropolitan , a two passenger version of the Smart cars to be sold though
Roger Penske. Can some one say irony here. thanks LRDaum mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:10 PM
From: francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There aren't many changes necessary. Early GEN-2 engines still used the
Borg Warner auto trans. Those have a separate bell housing, not cast as
part of the trans body. So it is simple enough to get a GEN-2 bell and
bolt a GEN-1 style trans to it, or just get the tailshaft housing from a
GEN-1 type trans -- the output shafts are the same, just the housing is
different. The engine mounts are in the correct location IIRC. One might
have to drill new holes for the mounts, but that's about it.
I have always understood that there is a *possibility* that 290s were
substituted for 287s near the end of the 66 model run, but have never
seen any proof. The VIN on the 66 Ambo would tell if it came with a 290
or 287. But in all honesty, it's likely a later transplant. The 343
didn't appear until 1967, only the 290 was used in 66, and no 290s in
Ambassadors, at least not in 67 (I don't think the Ambo ever got a 290
or 304). If this were a 66 Classic or Marlin, then there is a
*possibility* it is the factory engine. The 327 remained in production
for at least another year (through 1967) since orders were coming in
from Kaiser Jeep and Gray Marine.
---- original message --------------------------
Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:08 PM
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
I have seen some information that late 66 model year cars came with the
Gen 2 engines. Given the changes necessary to do that I doubt it would
have happened until the full model year update for the 67 line and the
elimination of the closed driveline. Yet I see a 66 Ambo on EvilBay
with
a Gen 2 engine and have heard of 66 Marlins with the 290 (supposedly the
last 200 made). I always attributed it to somebody not familiar with
AMC's mistaking what they had. Anybody have the official word? To add
even more confusion is the fact that AMC supplied the GEN1 327 to Jeep
through the 68 model year so they either used up old engines and kept
the
GEN1 in production for 2 years after they dropped it from their own
model
line.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:12:09 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] The Kiss of Death
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I guess you're alluding to Renault killing off AMC? That's what people
like to think happened, but is far from the truth. Renault pumped
millions into AMC to keep it afloat after 1980. If not for that, it
would have died then, as the market for 4x4 utility vehicles suddenly
fell out and left AMC hanging. That's why Renault went from a 5% or so
stake in AMC to a 47% majority share in one year. That wasn't supposed
to happen, but if it hadn't AMC would have died.
Renault just wasn't willing to listen to AMC people on American tastes
and requirements. They learned, but learned late. Renault had pumped so
much into AMC that they lost money when selling out in 1987, but the
political climate in France caused that. They had learned lessons the
hard way, and were in a position to make a nice come-back when the
sell-out occurred. That's what happens when the government owns a stake
in the company -- politics are entangled with it.
Apparently Renault learned a LOT from it's foray into AMC. The
Nissan-Renault merger turned Nissan around rather quickly. If they play
the same game with GM, it could be the dawn of a new era, not the kiss
of death.
On June 30, 2006 JOE B FULTON wrote:
> Deja Vu?
>
>
> I found this on the web today:
>
> NEW YORK - Automakers Renault SA and Nissan Motor Co.
> are interested in purchasing a significant stake in
> General Motors Corp. and including the struggling
> Detroit company in their alliance, according to a
> letter sent Friday to GM from billionaire investor
> Kirk Kerkorian's investment company.
>
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:21:01 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Thanks for the reminder Jock! I don't have any reference books here in
Afghanistan. I'd have normally looked in one to check before replying.
On June 30, 2006 Jock J Jocewicz wrote:
> Frank had to say this in his post about Gen to Gen 2 changeover -
"at
> least not in 67 (I don't think the Ambo ever got a 290 or 304)."
Frank,
> the 67up Ambassadors did come with 6-cylinders, the 290 and then in
70,
> 71 for sure, the 304 was available in Ambassadors.
>
> Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
> 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
> JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
> '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA,
IL
> AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:22:23 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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That's a reinforcement ring, behind (tranny side) flexplate.
On June 30, 2006 JOE B FULTON wrote:
> Is there supposed to be a six hole spacer behind or in
> front of the flex plate in a 70s (904 tranny) 258 six?
>
> If so: in front (towards engine) or behind (towards
> tranny)?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:33:09 -0400
From: "M Walter" <redamc1963@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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hello AMC land, I would like to put a 4 speed trans in my 62 american
convertible. It currently has a dual 1bbl carb 196 T-96 3 speed w/o.d. I
put a Hurst truck floor shifter in it, whic works great but interferes with
the o.d. The clutch is also too weak for this motor. THANX,
redamc1963@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:00:01 +0000
>
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over (Wayne E LaMothe)
> 2. 6 hole spacer (JOE FULTON)
> 3. 6 hole spacer (JOE FULTON)
> 4. Forged 290-360 I-beam rods (Jim Boone)
> 5. Fw: Rebel Rear Control Arm/bushing/arm interchange question
> (Eddie Stakes)
> 6. Starting New Project For the Orange Hornet (Mr. AMC)
> 7. Fw: 1981 AMC Spirit For Sale Portland, OR (RetroRalph)
> 8. Them's the brakes? (aspirin)
> 9. Re: Them's the brakes? (Mark Price)
> 10. Fw: Crankshaft Identification (Eddie Stakes)
> 11. Re: 6 hole spacer (Todd Tomason)
> 12. Two Hornet/Gremlin Inst. Questions (Mr. AMC)
>
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:51 -0400
>From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gen 1 to Gen 2 change over
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <20060630.165851.3864.0.superglider@xxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>I know. I let that one go cause I had a 67 Ambo 990 wagon with the 290.
>I was more interested in what 66 model year cars came with the 290.
>
>Wayne
>
>Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
>http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
>AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
>69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
>88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
>2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)
>
>On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:48:15 -0500 Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
>writes:
> > Frank had to say this in his post about Gen to Gen 2 changeover -
> > "at
> > least not in 67 (I don't think the Ambo ever got a 290 or 304)."
> > Frank,
> > the 67up Ambassadors did come with 6-cylinders, the 290 and then in
> > 70,
> > 71 for sure, the 304 was available in Ambassadors.
> >
> > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
> > 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
> > JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
> > '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK,
> > CORDOVA, IL
> > AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> > or go to http://www.amc-list.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <20060630210441.98917.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Is there supposed to be a six hole spacer behind or in
>front of the flex plate in a 70s (904 tranny) 258 six?
>
>If so: in front (towards engine) or behind (towards
>tranny)?
>
>Thanks,
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:09:41 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <20060630210941.75724.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Never mind folks. I found a diagram.
>
>Thanks,
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:29:09 -0400
>From: "Jim Boone" <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <BAY116-F2CFD2B71F35282EAC1F52AC7D0@xxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Nick,
>
>Not to sound like a D-A, but even with forged rods & pistons, you still
>have
>a cast crank. Wouldn't that still be a weak link on a high power engine?
>
>I do have a spare 360, maybe it's time to rethink that one...
>
>Jim Boone
>Mims, FL
>
> >From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [AMC-List] Forged 290-360 I-beam rods
> >
> >Well, after about a year, they are finally done. We
> >now have forged I-beam rods for the smaller engines
> >along with new forgings for the 390 and 401. These
> >are 4340 forging in the 5.875 length. The small end
> >is bushed for .930 floating pins (I have full floating
> >Ross pistons to with these) and come with 8740 ARP cap
> >screw bolts. These are not some other make rods that
> >are altered to fit an AMC. These were made
> >specifically for the 290-360 engines.
> >
> >These are able to handle up to 800hp but more
> >importantly, they are a great upgrade from our stock
> >cast rods in the smaller engines.
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:02:18 -0500
>From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Rebel Rear Control Arm/bushing/arm interchange
> question
>To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: scamp340@xxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <027d01c69c8d$ab7f8260$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>MessageThe folsk below are looking for some aftermarket possibilites for
>arms, and some bushings. Anyone that might be able to point them in right
>direction or help out please feel free to reply and also copy your reply to
>them below, thanks in advance to all who comment.
>Eddie Stakes'
>Planet Houston AMX
>713.464.8825
>eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>*email is currently HEAVY
>Call if important*
>www.planethoustonamx.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Coley, Sandy J. scamp340@xxxxxxx
>To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:15 PM
>Subject: Rebel Rear Control Arm/bushing
>
>
>Hello, I own a 1970 Rebel Machine w/4spd & I'm in need of the rear upper
>control arm busing(s) if available and if not, a used upper control arm
>w/bushings??
>if also not available, do you know whether any of the aftermarket arms I've
>seen available for non-AMC vehicles will work? appreciate any info you can
>provide..... thanks....
>please respond to me at scamp340@xxxxxxx
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:07:32 -0400
>From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
>Subject: [AMC-List] Starting New Project For the Orange Hornet
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <28454-44A5A0A4-289@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
>
>While waiting for on going work to be completed after the holiday
>weekend and being stuck in the house due to the rain heat and humidity
>it is time to see about the next project. With the windshield lettering
>tinted job completed I need to start on the next project. I went through
>my parts closet and got out all my 77 AMX fender flairs and front air
>dam. I bought a set with some extras a few years ago from a tip on eBay
>from a member of Bart's Gremlin group that I am a member of. This turned
>out to be a real good tip as I bought extra parts from the guy I bought
>the flairs from and his brother. One brother in N.C. and the other in
>northern N.Y. State. I picked out the best 4 for the rear wheel wells. 3
>of the 4 are painted and the 3'rd is the natural red plastic color. It's
>time to get out the SEM bumper stripper and get on to starting stripping
>the flairs this weekend. I did a test last year and the SEM strips the
>paint off the flairs without damaging the plastic. SEM also makes a
>bumper primer which I will use. I have a gallon of Sherman Williams
>acrylic enamel the color of the car to paint the flairs with but will
>need some tints make it match right. I also have the Impact 200 additive
>to keep the paint flexible and prevent cracking like the paint that is
>on there now. The wife was happy to see the grill and headlight doors
>out of the house. She hasn't noticed the 4 flairs that miraculously
>appeared from thin air here now this afternoon. SHAZZZZZAAAAAMMMMMMMM
>What fender flairs?????? :-)
>"Doc"
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:58:33 -0700
>From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 1981 AMC Spirit For Sale Portland, OR
>To: "AMC-List" <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <001901c69c98$b6d6a480$6400a8c0@ralphs1>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Am forwarding this info to the AMC-List group. (See www.amxfiles.com)
>
>This one sounds likeit has potential. Call or email this seller for more
>particulars.
>
>Thanks,
>______________________________________________________________
>Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx>
>http://mysite.verizon.net/res79g4m/ ... and "check the links"
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ellie Carraway
>To: ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM
>Subject: AMC Spirit
>
>
>Hey,
>
>I got this email address from the Classic AMX club of portland website. My
>husband and I are looking to sell his 1981 AMC Spirit. It's in great
>shape...lots of engine stuff has been rebuilt, runs like a champ. 80,000
>original miles. We're moving to Austin and only my car is coming with. I
>thought I would give your club a shot...it's a great car and if y'all are
>fans then someone might really like this one. We're looking to sell in the
>next week. If anyone is interested email me or call me at 503-473-2134.
>
>Thanks
>
>Ellie
>
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:01:25 -0600
>From: aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Them's the brakes?
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <44A5AD45.9030908@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have a 1982 Spirit 6cyl, 5 speed, the brake pedal sits out to far,
>further out than the cluth pedal, and a further than normal from the
>accelerator. I noted a 2nd hole lower in the pedal from where the brake
>pushrod connects to it. Will changing to the lower hole, move the pedal
>in? will the brakes still function and not jam up? or is there
>adjustment on the end of the pushrod where in fits into the master cyl.
>The car has manual front disk brakes.
> Want to get this fixed as it its kind of a saftey issue as my knee will
>hit the steering wheel if i not careful when braking. Thanks
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:37:58 -0700
>From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Them's the brakes?
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <27128303.1151721478405.JavaMail.root@web28>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>Sounds like someine has put the worng master on it?
>If you move the manual disc car to the lower hole you will find it hard to
>stop as the two holes are intended for the difference in leverage needed
>between power and manual brakes The upper hole gives you a better ratio for
>manual brakes. You could always try the lower hole, but be very careful as
>it may proove difficult to stop.
> Try buying a master for the car and checking to see if the rod is that
>same length.
>When I changed my 79 Mustang manual disc master out in my American for a
>leak the one I got was boxed wrong and the pushrod was too short. I had to
>take it back and they pulled another from the shelf and it had the correct
>length rod with it.
>--
>Mark Price
>markprice242ATadelphia.net
>Morgantown, WV
>
>
>---- aspirin <aspirin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I have a 1982 Spirit 6cyl, 5 speed, the brake pedal sits out to far,
> > further out than the cluth pedal, and a further than normal from the
> > accelerator. I noted a 2nd hole lower in the pedal from where the brake
> > pushrod connects to it. Will changing to the lower hole, move the pedal
> > in? will the brakes still function and not jam up? or is there
> > adjustment on the end of the pushrod where in fits into the master cyl.
> > The car has manual front disk brakes.
> > Want to get this fixed as it its kind of a saftey issue as my knee will
> > hit the steering wheel if i not careful when braking. Thanks
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > or go to http://www.amc-list.com
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>
>
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:45:22 -0500
>From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Crankshaft Identification
>To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: "D. A. DAVIS" <ddavis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <045701c69cca$debccd80$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Anyone that can help the folsk out below feel free to reply and copy it to
>them and thanks in advance to all who reply.
>Eddie Stakes'
>Planet Houston AMX
>713.464.8825
>eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>*email is currently HEAVY
>Call if important*
>www.planethoustonamx.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "D. A. DAVIS" <ddavis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:44 PM
>Subject: Crankshaft Identification
>
>
>I need your help to identify a crankshaft. I'm building a 4.6L stroker
>engine for my ZJ, and I'm confused about my crankshaft. The crank engine
>came out of a 1983 Jeep CJ7, and had a metal valve cover. I thought it was
>a early 258. My crank had the casting number 3235477, which is identified
>by the chart on your website as a 258 lightweight with 10 counter weights.
>My crankshaft has 4 counter weights. When I first saw that it had 4
>counter
>weights, I thought it was a 232 crankshaft. The engine was not the
>original
>one in the CJ7. The person I got from told me that he had put the engine
>in
>it. This block used the large head bolts as well. If you've got any ideas
>about it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 01:58:46 -0500
>From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 6 hole spacer
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <200607010158.46666.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Good. What's the correct answer?
>
>Todd
>
>On Friday 30 June 2006 16:09, JOE FULTON wrote:
> > Never mind folks. I found a diagram.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe Fulton
> > Salinas, CA
> > _______________________________________________
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> > or go to http://www.amc-list.com
>
>
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>
>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 05:41:06 -0400
>From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
>Subject: [AMC-List] Two Hornet/Gremlin Inst. Questions
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <28455-44A64332-182@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
>
>One, what year did AMC start putting kilometers on the speedo's? And two
>what year did they change the ohms on the fuel tank sender?
>"Doc"
>
>
>
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